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Post by Lamya on Feb 19, 2011 23:34:12 GMT -5
One day Umar came to the Prophet (saw) and said, “O Messenger of Allah, I love you more than I love anyone else except myself.”
Rasool Allah (saw) said, “Until you love me [you don’t attain complete faith until you love me more than you love anything, including yourself]."
So Umar (raa) went to think about it, and then came back and said, “Now I love you more than myself.” The Prophet responded, “Now you have attained faith.”
What is the realization/awareness, in your opinion that Umar Ibn Al Khattab, came to for him to be able to frankly say to the Prophet (saw) definitively, "Now I love you more than myself."?
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(raa) stands for Radi Allahu Anhu which is what we say when we mention a companion of the Prophet (saw) and it means "May Allah be Pleased with him/her")
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Post by sofiahussein2011 on Feb 20, 2011 22:40:51 GMT -5
now he has pure faith then before to the point that he said i love you more then my self...  [/color] |
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Post by guest on Feb 24, 2011 7:17:34 GMT -5
omar was true beliaver,and has pure iman
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Post by madalena on Feb 25, 2011 21:27:33 GMT -5
Well, I find the answer in the question itself, “Until you love me [you don’t attain complete faith until you love me more than you love anything, including yourself]."
When one submits his will to Allah and embraces Islam, one is not at liberty to pick and choose which part to follow if we desire to obtain complete faith.
We must understand that by loving Rasool Allah (saw) more than we love anything, including ourselves we won’t really know how live our life to the fullest, love ourselves and the ones around us.
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Post by rahma on Feb 26, 2011 2:16:42 GMT -5
I think Omar had complete faith, because we know his actions toward the prophet (saw) and Islam were very loving and strong. My thought about this is that, Omar did not think the words though, but just reacted to quickly; after thinking, he realized what the prophet (saw) meant.
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Post by bisharo on Feb 26, 2011 12:19:50 GMT -5
I believe that Umar (raa) he had a pure heart for Islam and the Prophet (saw). When the Prophet(saw) said “Until you love me [you don’t attain complete faith until you love me more than you love anything, including yourself]" Umar (raa) realized that he couldn't have truly believed until he loved our beloved Prophet (saw) more than himself. Since he was a true believer and had a pure heart he was able to commit to that statment.
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Post by Asha on Feb 26, 2011 14:07:28 GMT -5
Omar thought: 1) I will not intercede for myself on the Day of Judgment,but the prophet of Allah Will, 2)My deeds will not place me in the heights levelers, but my love for the prophet will, 3)i did not take myself from darkness to light, but the prophet of Allah did
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Post by Lamya on Feb 26, 2011 22:05:31 GMT -5
Our love for the Prophet (saw) is to us the mark of true faith. We do not really believe in Islam unless we love the Prophet more than anyone else. It's a requirement of our faith; it is not merely a verbal statement.
Maybe if it was someone else other than the Prophet (saw) who had told us to love them more than anything else, we would have labeled him arrogant. But coming from him who never sought position in this world, never sought a reward is a teaching. He aspired to no status other than the one given to him by God, as a Messenger to deliver His message and educate people in how to accept it and conduct their lives on its basis. So, we should view the Prophet's order that we love him more than anything else in this light.
Loving the Prophet (saw) means that when we encounter something that is contrary to what the Prophet says or orders, we must never hesitate between the two. We must always take what the Prophet says and abandon anything that contradicts it or is different than it.
There is another Hadith, which associates loving the Prophet with loving God in which Anas quotes the Prophet as saying: “There are three qualities which are certain to give anyone the sweetness of faith: to love God and His Messenger more than anyone else, to love a person for no purpose other than for God’s sake, and to hate to relapse into disbelief after God has saved him from it as much as to hate to be cast in the fire.” (Related by Al-Bukhari, Muslim and Al-Nassaie).
So, loving the Prophet is seen as part of loving God. Not surprising at all, since through the Prophet we learned:
1) who Allah is,
2) His attributes,
3)our position in relation to Him,
4) what concept to formulate of Him
5) and what God wants from us--our purpose in life.
Thus, the Prophet (saw) has given us everything we need to know about God and guided us through example along a way that is certain to Insha Allah earn Allah's acceptance, and an eternal life in Jannah. He has indeed taught us every good thing in this life.
It so follows, that if someone does you a good turn you are grateful, if they save/rescue you from detriment you feel highly indebted, and if they simply make you happy you are ecstatic. This is just how you feel towards someone who has done you a few good favors. Indeed the Prophet (saw) did you the best turn anyone could ever do. He:
1) delivered a divine guidance that is the most purest and complete
2) spared us the worst calamity that can ever befall anyone-- incurring God’s wrath and punishment of the hellfire.
3) gave us the faith that makes us experience the sweetest of feelings in our heart, the sweetness of faith.
If we realize all this as Umar Ibn Al Khattab did, how can we possibly not love him more than we love ourselves?
Umar’s words were genuine. He did not say words simply to please the Prophet (saw). He was expressing his true feelings, in which at first he thought that no one can ever possibly love anyone else better than ones own self. But the Prophet explained that every Muslim should know that nothing could take precedence over the Prophet in any Muslim’s heart, not even one’s interests, desires, etc. These should be sacrificed. Umar realized it was an order that over rode what he, his own dearest soul, thought.
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Post by amirahmelsh on Mar 4, 2011 20:49:35 GMT -5
I agree with a lot of what other sisters said.  You girls are thinking smart! At first, it seems like Umar (raa) didn't probably really think through what he was saying to the Prophet (saw) but then when the prophet spoke he thought about it ... what did I (Umar) do for myself and what Rasool Allah (saw) did and will do for me? The prophet will intercede for all human kind, our love for the prophet gives us a true faith and prophet Muhummad corrected us in our ways with Islam, bringing us into the great light and leading us along the way!!! After Umar (raa) thought of all this, he knew that He loved the Prophet more than he loved himself Omar thought: 1) I will not intercede for myself on the Day of Judgment,but the prophet of Allah Will, 2)My deeds will not place me in the heights levelers, but my love for the prophet will, 3)i did not take myself from darkness to light, but the prophet of Allah did Umars love is so pure insha'allah we will love the Prophet as much as he |
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